Thursday, 17 December 2009

ITC Lideri Ergeç, İslam Dünyasının Yeni Hicri Yılını Kutladı



17 Aralık 2009, Perşembe

Irak Türkmen Cephesi Lideri Sadettin Ergeç, İslam Dünyasının Yeni Hicri Yılını Kutladı
Irak Türkmen Cephesi Genel Başkanı ve Türkmen Milletvekili Dr. Sadettin ERGEÇ, yeni hicri yılı münasebetiyle İslam dünyasını ve özellikle Türkmen milletini kutladı.

Ergeç; "Peygamber Efendimizin (SAV) hicretinden anladığımız, Türkmen Milletinin tüm meşru haklarını almak için daha fazla çalışmak gerektiğidir. Çünkü hicret bir yerden başka yere para amacı için yapılmadı, bu hicret daha güçlü, çalışmak ve birlik içindi." dedi.

Irak Türkmen Cephesi Başkanı, Türkmen Milletinin birlik ve beraberlik içinde olmasını vurgulayarak özellikle ülkede yapılacak olan parlamento seçimlerinin Türkmen varlığını ispat edeceğine değindi.

ITC TT Enformasyon Şb. Tarafından Türkçeye Çevrilmiştir

Sunday, 13 December 2009

Turkey wins oil tender in Iraq as part of consortium

Saturday, December 12, 2009
BAGHDAD - Anatolia News Agency

The Turkish Petroleum Corporation, or TPOA, won the tender for the Badra oil field in Kut in Iraq's second oil licensing round as part of the international consortium lead by Russia's Gazprom.

The Consortium brings together Russia's Gazprom with 40 percent, Korea's Kogas with 30 percent, Malaysia's Pertonas with 20 percent and Turkey's TPOA with 10%.

The consortium committed to produce a minimum of 80,000 barrels daily, grant $ 100 million to the Iraqi Ministry of Petroleum, investing $ 100 million for the development of the oil field and promised a price of $ 5.5 per barrel.

Friday, 11 December 2009

Basın Bildirisi, Mehmet Samancı

10 Aralık Dünya İnsan Hakları Günü 61.Yıl Dünemi. Dünya iki kanlı savaş yaşadıktan sonra, barışı ve insanlığı yaşamak, yaşatmak için 10 Aralık 1948 Tarihinde 30 maddeden oluşan “İnsan Hakları Evrensel Beyannamesini kabul etmiştir. 61. Yılını andığımız bu gün, insan hakları ve özgürlüklerin bütün dünyaca ortak değer olarak kabul edildiği gündür.

Bu ortak değerlerin üzerinden, bu kadar zaman geçmesine rağmen, ciddi bir düzelmenin olduğunu söylemek çok zordur. Irak’ta hala darağaçları – idam sehpaları, görülmemiş işkence ve zulümler yaşanıyor, son günlerde terör saldırılıları sonucunda yüzlerce insanın hayatı kayp oldu ve binlerce insan yaralı oldu ayrıca Aralık 2009 ta insan kaçırma olaylarında artması Irak'ta insan hakları ihlallerin ne kadar tehlikede oldoğunu açıkca ortaya koymuştur, başta Türkmenler olmak özere hemen hemen tüm Türkmen bölgelerinde çeşitli tarihlerde bombalı saldırılar ve suikast saldırıları sonucunda yüzlerce Türkmen Şehit olmuştur,
Dünya İnsan Hakları Günü’nün 61. yıldönümü bu gün. Ama Irak'ta İnsan Hakları İhlalleri hale devam etmektedir çok sayıda tutukluların Af yasasından yararlanması ve tutuklulara yapılan işkenceler “1nsan Hakları Evrensel Bildirisi”nin 61. yılında hala endişeli ve tedirgin bir dönemden geçmektedir.

Bir yanda tüm insanlığın gözleri önünde yaşanan insan hakları ihlalleri ve adaletsizlik, diğer taraftan “İnsan Hakları Evrensel Beyannamesi” 1nsan Hakları Evrensel Bildirisinin ruhu, insanın doğuştan sahip olduğu değerlerdir. Bu değerlerin temelini de, özgürlük ve eşitlik ilkeleri oluşturur.

Bu gün tehdit altında olan, insanın insan olmasından dolayı var olan hak ve özgürlükleridir. Yaşanan süreç insanların kutsallarına ve özgürlüklerine yönelmiştir. Bu kabul edilemez.

Bu şartlar altında “10 Aralık Dünya 1nsan Hakları Günü”nü idrak etmek daha anlamlıdır.Bütün dünyada yaşanan ötekileştirme ve kendinden saymadığına karşı uygulanan yok etme şiddet, Çocuklar, Kadınlar başta olmak üzere bütün insanları mağdur etmiştir / etmektedir. Düne kadar ülkelerindeki insan hakları ilhalleri ve inanç özgürlüğünün baskı altında olduğundan dem vuranlar, yabancı düşmanlığı ve inanç özgürlüğü üzerinden güvenli yarınlar inşa etmekten bahsetmektedirler.

Farklılıkları aynılaştırmaya çalışmadan yaşamanın mümkün olduğunu gösteren bir kültürün çocukları olarak bizler, 10 Aralık Dünya 1nsan Hakları Günü münasebetiyle, din, dil, ırk, cinsiyet, sınıf ve statü ayrımı yapmaksızın dünya üzerinde yasayan herkesi kardeş olmaya ve kucaklaşmaya davet ediyoruz.

Mehmet Samancı
Irak İnsan Hakları Merkezi
Gnel Başkan
2009-12-10

Thursday, 10 December 2009

IRAQ: ELECTORAL FRAUD BY KDP AND PUK REVEALED

By – Abbas Al-Samarrai

In Iraq, while the parliamentarian elections scheduled for January 2010 draw closer, the KDP continues with its fraudulent attempts in order to increase its percentage of votes. Reportedly, over 35 thousand Kurdish voters residing in Irbil and Dohuk have been directed by the KDP towards the disputed regions in the province of Ninewa, namely Bashika, Sheikhan, Guveyir, Makhmur, Simal, Telkeyf, Zummar and Karac, and they have been registered at the electoral registration centers in these regions.

As a result of the checks made at the above-mentioned registration centers upon the increased denunciation and complaints, it has been found out that thousands of families, who resided in Irbil and Dohuk but came to Mosul to vote, registered at the electoral centers using fake residence and documents, and that the documents needed for official registration were not arranged.

According to the laws of the Independent High Electoral Commission (IHEC), an electorate who whishes to be transferred from one constituency to another must present the form prepared by the IHEC along with an official document belonging to himself/herself to the electoral registration office.

Moreover, the individual must have lived at least three months in the constituency he/she wishes to register. However, no forms and official documents were taken from 35 thousand voters who were registered at the electoral offices of Bashika, Sheikhan, Guveyir, Makhmur, Simal, Telkeyf, Zummar and Karac, and these voters who do not reside in these regions were made fill in and sign thousands of empty residence forms during the registration process.

Another surprising issue is the claims that the families in Dohuk and Irbil “were promised to get 100 million Iraqi dinars per voter if they were to register in the province of Ninewa ”. However, it has been learnt that certain families, who went to the electoral offices to register, were not paid anything and so they changed their minds and did not register.

It is interesting that majority of the individuals assigned at the mentioned registration centers consist of Kurdish teachers working in Dohuk and Irbil . In fact, these teachers appointed by the KDP and PUK are not allowed to work at electoral offices for they are “official employees”.

Upon the above-mentioned developments, Mosul representatives of 14 political parties/groups prepared a written complaint to send to the “Independent High Electoral Commission, the Iraqi Parliament’s Presidential Council, Council of Ministers, Mosul Governorate, Mosul Provincial Assembly, Mosul Operation Center, Mosul Electoral Commission, and the UN Iraqi Representation”.

This complaint revealed the electoral fraud by the KDP, and emphasized that the electoral registration of the voters in the region were not respected.
Furthermore, it was decided to set up an investigation commission to ensure the monitoring and establishment of any fraudulent activity.

Those who are responsible for these illegal attempts must be punished as soon as possible; these attempts are a product of the efforts of the KDP and PUK to integrate Mosul into the borders of the Kurdish regional government.

In addition, these regions which are called “Disputed Regions” must be under the control of the central government. Furthermore, pashmargas who suppress and intimidate people must be taken away from these regions as soon as possible, as it was the case in the provincial elections.

Monday, 7 December 2009

Times of change: Erasing the Ottomans from Mecca




GÜL DEMİR - NİKİ GAMMISTANBUL - Hürriyet Daily News

Friday, December 4, 2009


The 350-year-old portico designed by legendary Ottoman architect Mimar Sinan for the Sacred Mosque is to be torn down now that the pilgrims have left. And with its demolition Mecca’s last traces of Ottoman architecture will be dust in the desert wind


Now that the Kurban Bayram holiday and the time of the Hajj pilgrimage have ended, Islam’s holy city of Mecca can return to normal. But with the number of pilgrims estimated to rise to 10 million in the coming years, Saudis have been working hard non-stop for years to prepare for them.


This year approximately 2.5 million pilgrims converged on the Saudi Arabian city that for centuries has been the focal point of Muslim believers who gather to partake in the pilgrimage at least once in their lifetime provided they can afford it and are in good enough health.


How the city prepares for its visitors, however, is a question that some experts say has not been addressed appropriately, especially regarding ancient Islamic architecture and Ottoman heritage.


According to reports during this year’s Hajj, now that the pilgrims have left, the portico around the Kaabah, designed by legendary Ottoman architect Mimar Sinan in the late 1500s, is to be torn down.

Dr. Sami Angawi, head of the Amar Center for Architectural Heritage in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, is an expert on the region's Islamic architecture. He said he acknowledges that the Saudis have the right to provide modern cities for their citizens, but also noted that many buildings from early Islamic history are being demolished and replaced with high-rise buildings. Angawi said he calculated that over 300 historical buildings in Mecca and Medina have already been destroyed.


Also, the Washington-based Gulf Institute has estimated that, in the past two decades, 95 percent of the millennium-old buildings in Mecca have been demolished.


Furthermore, the British-based Gensler architectural firm disclosed during the Hajj that is has plans to redevelop one square kilometer in the historic southern area known as Darb Al-Khalil. When completed, however, the area will include residences, hotels and amenities for pilgrims and will allow easy movement from the area to the Mosque Al-Haram, or Sacred Mosque.


Admittedly, the Saudis have the right to ensure that the annual pilgrimage occurs as safely as possible, so it is not surprising they are bent on making changes. For example, the ramp that leads to the area where the pilgrims “throw stones at the devil” at times was where hundreds could be killed when crowds rushed forward to complete this portion of the pilgrimage. Today, however, the ramp system has been changed and can hold 3 million people and has capacity for as many as 5 million.


They also expanded the Mosque Al-Haram in the center of the city, and where there were once hundreds of houses, they have now been replaced with wide avenues and city squares.


The Ottoman fortress that looked over the Kaabah for two centuries has already been razed to make room for the Abraj Al Bait Towers, which are supposed to be finished in 2010. This move provoked anger among Turks who viewed the fortress as part of Ottoman heritage. The towers, however, will have a prayer hall capable of holding 10,000 worshippers, a seven-star hotel, a shopping mall, residential housing and a parking lot. All told, the entire structure will be capable of housing up to 100,000 people.


Mecca has gone through many rejuvenations before. One example is in the late 1500s, when Ottoman Sultan Suleyman had Mimar Sinan design plans that included widening the courtyard and building porticoes. The plan was carried out in 1590 by Mimar Mehmed Ağa. Sultan Selim II, in 1571, ordered Mimar Sinan to renovate the mosque and replaced the prayer hall’s roof with domes and reinforced it with new columns. The portico plan was deferred to a later date. In 1629, excessive rain damage led to the restoration of the mosque and the Kaabah.


But with demolition of the portico, the last traces of Ottoman architecture will be erased from Mecca.


The Saudi way


In 1924, Mecca became a part of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The Saudis espoused Wahhabism, a puritanical form of Islam that rejects many of the practices attached to Islam. In particular, certain locations in and around Mecca and Medina that were connected to the Prophet had virtually been turned into shrines. The Saudis viewed this as sacrilegious and moved to eliminate them.


Furthermore, certain buildings from the Ottoman period were made sacred because they were historical. The Saudis, however, saw these new traditions to be expendable because the kingdom was facing a growing numbers of pilgrims.

Mecca history
The foundation of the city dates back to 2000 B.C. and flourished when it became a center of north-south trade routes. Little is known about the city’s early years but some of its history can be found in the Museum of the Ancient Orient in Istanbul where pre-Islamic artifacts are displayed.


For Muslims, Mecca became important as the center of the Prophet Mohammed’s activities in the 7th century and the city from which Islam spread throughout the Middle East, Africa and Asia by military conquest and trade.
Ottomans take responsibility


In the early 1500s, Sultan Selim I conquered Egypt and from then on Ottomans provided the main caravan to Mecca for the Hajj and for centuries held responsibility for the upkeep of the Kaabah and surrounding mosque and town. Ottoman control over Mecca meant that with the exception of brigands, caravans were not raided. More people could travel safely. Fortresses and caravanasaries were built along the roads for accommodation as well as wells for drinking water.


In Mecca, the legendary Ottoman architect Mimar Sinan designed the facilities around the Kaabah including the domed portico that currently encircles the enclosure. The large Kışla Fortress of Mecca was built overlooking the Kaabah and constructed in the 18th century for defense purposes. Also, efforts to safely organize large numbers of pilgrims to certain locations were carried out.


Momentum of change
In the 16th century, no one would have thought that millions of people would flock to the religious sanctuary centuries later. Since then hostels, hans, government buildings and private houses were built, railroad lines expanded, improvements in passenger ships and ferries and finally cars and airplanes contributed to an ever-increasing number of people participating in the pilgrimage.


As is the case everywhere in the world, without more attention to development, it appears the massive influx of people will outweigh the momentum of history.

© 2009 Hurriyet Daily News URL: www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=times-bring-change-8211-erasing-the-ottomans-from-mecca-2009-12-04

Sunday, 6 December 2009

Polish heirs of Tokhtamysh (Polish Tatars)


POLISH HEIRS OF TOKHTAMYSH
JUSTYNA SZEWCZYK
ISTANBUL - Hürriyet Daily News
Friday, December 4, 2009

With six centuries of co-existence behind them, Poles and ‘their Muslims,’ an ethnic Turkic group also known as Polish Tatars, have a long history of peace in their communities and perhaps many lessons for the rest of Europe, where social tensions brewing between locals and Islamic immigrants have pushed people passed their boiling point at times
Much of Europe is questioning its ability to incorporate Muslims into its culture and identity, but the 600-year co-existence of Muslims and Catholics in Poland bucks the trend of cultural tension.

Polish Tatars, often referred to by Poles as “our Muslims,” are part of the country’s national history; even the post-Sept. 11 wave of Islamophobia that swept through other European countries did not bring significant disruption to Polish-Tatar ties.

“Islamophobia touched Poland only slightly,” said Selim Chazbijewicz, a political science professor of Tatar origin at the University of Warmia and Mazury in Olsztyn, Poland.

War refugees
The history of Tatar Muslims in Poland dates back to the 14th century, when Golden Horde khan Tokhtamysh, whose roots trace back to Genghis Khan’s empire, found refuge in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania after being defeated by Tamerlane, the Mongolian emperor who conquered Central Asia and parts of the Middle East. This event initiated the centuries-long presence of the Tatars, an ethnic Turkic group, in what later became the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
The earliest Tatar settlements had a military character and were located in Lithuanian territories in what is now northeastern Poland. Though they were valued as great warriors, Tatars began settling in greater numbers and many left soldiering behind. By the 17th century, many Tatar families had begun to cherish the same aristocratic privileges as other nobility in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

This good relationship was complicated in the 1670s, when Tatar units joined Ottoman Turks during the Polish-Ottoman wars, but Polish King Jan III Sobieski soon regained the Tatars’ loyalty when he promised to pay them back salaries.

Tatars also fought in the Battle of Vienna in 1683, when united European powers defended the continent from further Ottoman invasion. In this, the Tatars sided along state, not religious, lines.
Becoming Polish
By the 17th century, Tatars in the commonwealth spoke the local language yet maintained their separate religious identity. After Russia, Prussia and Austria partitioned Poland among themselves in the 18th century, Tatars continued to remain loyal to their Polish neighbors despite Russian attempts to break Polish-Tatar ties. Many Tatars, in fact, participated in Polish uprisings against the Russians in the 19th century and had their property confiscated along with that of Poles.

When Poland regained its independence after World War I, some 5,500 Tatars became Polish citizens, continuing their military tradition. After a war with the Bolsheviks, Tatars were organized into a Muslim squadron and, until World War II, the Polish military maintained a post for an imam.

Rise and decline
Despite a cultural revival in the interwar period, many Tatars decided to flee Poland shortly before World War II. Those who remained fought in the 1939 Defensive War against Nazi Germany and subsequently suffered along with their Polish neighbors.

The war was catastrophic for the Tatar intelligentsia. Members were killed, deported to the interior of Soviet Union or forced to flee to Western Europe, largely unable to return afterward. As a result, Tatar cultural life in post-war Poland was diminished from that in the interwar period, as territorial changes, along with migration after the war, further scattered Tatars across Polish territory.

Today, there are 4,000 Tatars in Poland, living in northern (Gdansk) and western (Wroclaw) Poland – far away from their former settlement areas in eastern Poland. The biggest concentration, however, is in Warsaw and Bialystok, to the capital’s northeast.
Patterns of co-existence

Tatars have managed to preserve a cultural distinctiveness not only due to cultural activity, but also through their religious identity. Their cultural identity was further preserved because the community was both rural and isolated from other Muslim centers.

“Tatars in Poland survived mainly due to their religious tradition, but also due to the fact that their ethnic self-identification focused on a military and historical tradition. Apart from that, they took great care in the survival of the group, that is, by choosing to marry within the group,” Chazbijewicz told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review in a telephone interview.
“That is how it was until very recent times. At the moment, there are other ways to preserve the identity,” he added, noting that “[Tatars] identified with Poland because they had a relatively high social status.”

Ali Miskiewicz, a historian of Tatar origin from the University of Bialystok, said the tolerant attitude of both Polish kings and later republican governments helped maintain a feeling of “Polishness” along with a distinct cultural and religious tradition.

Despite this, Tatar culture was free not from the influence of Polish Catholic traditions: At Easter, Tatars paint Easter eggs (“pisanki” in Polish) while children pour buckets of water on their friends on Wet Monday, the day after Easter Sunday. This created a tradition of unique and generally peaceful co-existence between Polish Catholics and Muslims. In eastern Polish towns, public schools open on Saturdays or Sundays to teach young Tatars Islamic basics.
In 2004, Tomasz Miskiewicz, a Tatar, was appointed the first mufti of Poland since World War II. There are three mosques in Poland – in Bohniki, Kruszyniany (both in eastern Poland) and Gdansk – in addition to 10 Islamic centers and prayer houses throughout the country.

Since the 1980s, students from Arab countries have begun coming to Poland, where some remain today among the 30,000 total Muslims in the country. Although the mufti is Tatar, a number of new organizations and courses have emerged with the support of Arab countries.
Suggesting that relations with the newer Muslims differ based on their origins, Chazbijewicz said, “We [Tatars] have the closest ties with Bosnians and Turks.”

The situation is different in relation to Arab Muslims. “In the eyes of Arab Muslims, the Islam practiced by the Tatars has lost a lot of its original elements.... Tatar women do not cover their heads,” said Agata S. Nalborczyk, a professor of Islamic studies at the University of Warsaw.
In fact, few Tatar women ever covered their heads, except during prayer or unless they lived in small villages – where all Polish women traditionally covered themselves.
“Some people attend mosque on Sunday, not Friday, due to a lack of time. Since Tatars for centuries were isolated from the ‘mainstream’ Muslim community, their Arabic pronunciation of the Koran also differs from the standard one. These and other factors create an unspoken tension between Tatars and Arab Muslims,” Nalborczyk said.

Chazbijewicz added that “similar to the economic crisis,” Islamophobia “has touched Poland only slightly.”

“Apart from that, Polish Tatars are perceived in Poland as part of a Polish historical and military tradition, not as an alien element that Poles need to be afraid of,” he said. “They are present [in the Polish consciousness] as ‘our Tatars’ or ‘our Polish Muslims,’ on completely different terms that of Arabs or other peoples.”

Nalborczyk agreed that there is no particular Islamophobia in Poland, though publications drawing heavily on a Western European fear of Islam continue to appear on Polish newsstands. In their quest for news, journalists project global fears about Islam onto both Polish society and Polish Muslims despite the structural differences between Poland and Western Europe.

© 2009 Hurriyet Daily News URL: www.hurriyetdailynews.com

Friday, 4 December 2009

Turkmen Öğrenci Mahmut BBC News Kanalında



İngiltere, Londra'da okullar arası bilgisayar ve internette iletişim yarışmasını kazanan turkmen öğrencisi Mahmut Abbas Şükür Rıza dünyaca önde gelen BBC News kanalı onu 03/12/2009 Perşembe günü davet edip canlı yayında konuk etti.Mahmut haber kanalında bilgisayar ve internettin yeni olan faydalarını anlattı ve öğretimde nasıl yararlı bir şekilde kullanılıp, öğrencilerin yazı ve imla’sını geliştirme olanağının mümkün olduğunu belirtip sunucuların beğenisini kazandı.Mahmood bir Kerkük Türkmeninin nasıl çok çalışıp daha 13 yaşında iken bu seviyeye geldiğini gösterdi.
IRAK TÜRKMEN CEPHESİ - LONDRA

Thursday, 3 December 2009

Yavuz EFENDİOĞLU, Turkmen martyr

Itc media


Irak Türkmen Cephesi yütütme kurulu üyesi Musul il başkanı ve Irak Türkmen meclisi üyesi rahmetli şehidimiz Yavuz EFENDİOĞLU ailesi olarak şükran ve minnetdarlığımızı ilekmekteğiz. T.C cumuhurbaşkanı sayın abdullah GÜL, T.C dışişleri bakanı sayın Ahmet DAVUTOĞLU bizi arayarak yanımızda olmaları ve taziye törenine katılma lütfünü gösteren, Türkiye büyük elçisi sayın Murat ÖZÇELİK beylere de şükranlarımızı sunar Allahtan dileğimiz Türk milletini her türlü kötülük ve acılardan korusun sağ olun var olunn

Gürsel Ahmed hüseyin Efendi Oğlu
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Wednesday, 2 December 2009

Bayezid Mosque – Istanbul

Pictures in 360 degrees panorama (Quicktime needed):

http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen6/f11-istanbul.html


The Bayezid Mosque is part of a large Islamic complex, The Sultan Bayezid II Complex built between 1501 and 1505.
It consists of a Quranic school, a Mosque, Soup-kitchen, public baths, madrasa, and the tombs of Bayezid II and Selçuk Hatun
The head-architect is said to be Mimar Hayreddin, but other architects was also involved.
For more architectual information visit Arch Net

Irak Türkmenleri Ve Yanlış Bir Seçenek!!!!!

Ayar NEDİM

Tüm Türk Dünyasına Özellikle Irak Türkmenlerinin dikkatınaSevgili kan kardeşlerimYine sizinle buluşurken gönlüm hüzünden dolmuştur, çünkü tekrar Milli mücadelemiz yolunda kendimiz engeller önümüze kurmaktayız, bunuda bilmiyorum bilmeden yoksada bilerek yapıyoruz.

İki seneden tüm Iraklılar biliyorlar 2010 senesinde Irak parlaman üyelerini seçmek için Irak genelinde bir seçim vardir, ben soruyorum neden biz Irak Türkleri kendimizi hazılamadık, neden diğer liteler gibi ön planlarımız yoktur, işte her gurup yoksada her taraf kendine özgü her taraftan görüşüp istediği kadar kıvalisyon yapmaktadırlar. Biz Türmenler sadece onun şunun leyhine yoksada aleyhine konuşıyoruz.

Sevgili kan kardeşlerim konuşma zamanı kalmadı yeter konuşmak çünkü sadece konuşmak bize faydası yoktur belkide çalışmak zamanı gelmiştir.Bu geçmişte bunca senemizi boş yere kayp ettik, insanlarımız cok iyice anladılar mağdur ve mazlüm olduklarımızıi bütün toplantı ve uturumlarda bağırdık ve seslendik birlik olalım, ama mealessef son zamanda gönül arzu etmediği bir haber duyduk oda biz Türkmenler ayrı ayrı büyük listelerle seçime katılıyoruz, ( Buda o, anlamda gelir bence Türkmen adı listeler arasında kayp olacak, çünkü bu listelerde Türkmen adı yoktur belkide şiaa, sun ve itlaf gibi adlar taşımaktadır, şayet bizim adaylarımız kazansa bile Türkmen adıyla kazanmayacaktır ).

Bu da bir anlama gelir oda adayımız kazansa bile başka Miilletler listesi yolu ile kazanacaktır burada ismimizi kayp etmiş oluruz. Son olarak bir önerim vardir oda bir soru halinde : Türkmen listemiz olursa sadece bir kişi kazanırsa daha makul değil ondan on kişi kazanıp ama Türkmen ismimizi kayp ederiz???????? Yanıt sizlerde.
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